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		<title>By: Poe McKnoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poe McKnoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohio State football makes me want to punch myself in the face for watching it.  I have the game on DVR and I can&#039;t for the life of me turn it on and make any comments.  It&#039;s just too hard.

If Tresselball would have worked, we would have all been LOL!!!!ing right now at USC and Pete Carroll.  We&#039;re not.  In fact, it shouldn&#039;t have been close.  Try a TE screen or try a read option or try a wildcat.  Something.  Anything.  0 second half points.

Terrelle Pryor said OSU should have won by 2 or 3 TDs easily, and USC probably agrees.  The offensive ineptitude has made Buckeye football hard to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohio State football makes me want to punch myself in the face for watching it.  I have the game on DVR and I can&#8217;t for the life of me turn it on and make any comments.  It&#8217;s just too hard.</p>
<p>If Tresselball would have worked, we would have all been LOL!!!!ing right now at USC and Pete Carroll.  We&#8217;re not.  In fact, it shouldn&#8217;t have been close.  Try a TE screen or try a read option or try a wildcat.  Something.  Anything.  0 second half points.</p>
<p>Terrelle Pryor said OSU should have won by 2 or 3 TDs easily, and USC probably agrees.  The offensive ineptitude has made Buckeye football hard to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (Not Boeckman)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd (Not Boeckman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think his prereads are part of the problem.  I think the coaches are waiting to see what defensive personnel are on the field before choosing a play.  There were a few times I noticed that an actual audible was called from the bench.

barkley made plenty of mistakes.  And they almost cost USC the game.  He was clearly a frosh QB.  However, pregame, he wasn&#039;t asked to put the game on his shoulders.  How many &quot;experts&quot; said that for tOSU to win, Terrel had to have a monster &quot;breakout game&quot;.  The game plan was way different to the point of apples to oranges.

The more years I attend tOSU game (32 season as a season ticket holder) the more I am astounded at how unintelligent, supposed experts are.  The Sports talk station here in Cleveland, has a really great afternoon host who DOES play by play of small college.  I am astounded at some of the misinformed and downright wrong things he says.  Its like he&#039;s reading JJ Huddle for his information, but using the wrong posters for sources.  

The morning host (he wasn&#039;t alone, but clearly drinking the national koolaid) said tOSU would lose 45-3.  I said all along that we would cover and did.  

The other thing that makes me laugh is the &quot;The only thing tOSU has to do to win the game,  blah blah blah.&quot;  Saturday, it was stop the running game.  Or the OLine.  Or Terrell Pryor needs to break out.  Different holes, same crap.  Guess what.  They were all right and all wrong.  None were the only thing they needed to do.  tOSU needed to do ALL of them and could only get 2 out of 3 and it wasn&#039;t enough.  I&#039;ve had it with the national media.

And another thing.  If the B10 is so bad, what the f^^&amp;&amp;&amp;^$ is the B12 and ACC?  Do they even have defensive coordinators on teams in the b12?  As for the ACC, forget whether they are a BCS quality conference.  Aren&#039;t they actually a FCS conference in disguise.

And finally, if I hear one more UCinn fan say they are the best team in Ohio I may walk down the street about 4 doors and go all Oregon Running Back on my neighbor who just graduated from there.  Thats why I don&#039;t want to play them.  Why legitimize their fantasies that they are big time.  They are more our little brother than sparty is of the wolverweasels.  Actually, from now on, I think I will refer to them as our little sister.

Rant over...time to go to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think his prereads are part of the problem.  I think the coaches are waiting to see what defensive personnel are on the field before choosing a play.  There were a few times I noticed that an actual audible was called from the bench.</p>
<p>barkley made plenty of mistakes.  And they almost cost USC the game.  He was clearly a frosh QB.  However, pregame, he wasn&#8217;t asked to put the game on his shoulders.  How many &#8220;experts&#8221; said that for tOSU to win, Terrel had to have a monster &#8220;breakout game&#8221;.  The game plan was way different to the point of apples to oranges.</p>
<p>The more years I attend tOSU game (32 season as a season ticket holder) the more I am astounded at how unintelligent, supposed experts are.  The Sports talk station here in Cleveland, has a really great afternoon host who DOES play by play of small college.  I am astounded at some of the misinformed and downright wrong things he says.  Its like he&#8217;s reading JJ Huddle for his information, but using the wrong posters for sources.  </p>
<p>The morning host (he wasn&#8217;t alone, but clearly drinking the national koolaid) said tOSU would lose 45-3.  I said all along that we would cover and did.  </p>
<p>The other thing that makes me laugh is the &#8220;The only thing tOSU has to do to win the game,  blah blah blah.&#8221;  Saturday, it was stop the running game.  Or the OLine.  Or Terrell Pryor needs to break out.  Different holes, same crap.  Guess what.  They were all right and all wrong.  None were the only thing they needed to do.  tOSU needed to do ALL of them and could only get 2 out of 3 and it wasn&#8217;t enough.  I&#8217;ve had it with the national media.</p>
<p>And another thing.  If the B10 is so bad, what the f^^&amp;&amp;&amp;^$ is the B12 and ACC?  Do they even have defensive coordinators on teams in the b12?  As for the ACC, forget whether they are a BCS quality conference.  Aren&#8217;t they actually a FCS conference in disguise.</p>
<p>And finally, if I hear one more UCinn fan say they are the best team in Ohio I may walk down the street about 4 doors and go all Oregon Running Back on my neighbor who just graduated from there.  Thats why I don&#8217;t want to play them.  Why legitimize their fantasies that they are big time.  They are more our little brother than sparty is of the wolverweasels.  Actually, from now on, I think I will refer to them as our little sister.</p>
<p>Rant over&#8230;time to go to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former fake QB, I have a couple comments on TnB (ffQB) points.

1. Do you think the presnap reads, or lack thereof, have to do with the timing of gettting plays signaled in to him? 

2. Yeah, I think that TP is more athlete than quarterback, so the analogy with Troy Smith makes sense to me. I think the kid is still learning big-time football, and he will do just fine. Meanwhile, they (coaches) ought to give him more plays to make use of his athleticism.

3. JohnBoy, I agree that Barkley seems more polished, but let&#039;s be realistic. The USC game plan was to put Barkley in positions where he could succeed. I mean shit, dumping off to a RB, handoffs to said RB and QB sneaks aren&#039;t exactly a dynamic offensive performance.

The more I&#039;m thinking about it, the more aggravated I am with the offensive coaching. The philosophy of playing it &#039;close to the sweater-vest&#039; doesn&#039;t cut it when playing top notch competition. We need an offensive coordinator; let JT gave more time to manage the game (we could improve that as well) and generally do what HC&#039;s are supposed to do. 

Getting beat in Big Games like this is really frustrating; if you&#039;re content to maintain this style of play and continue to be a Conference power, or possibly a Regional power, fine. I think our expectations are a little higher than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former fake QB, I have a couple comments on TnB (ffQB) points.</p>
<p>1. Do you think the presnap reads, or lack thereof, have to do with the timing of gettting plays signaled in to him? </p>
<p>2. Yeah, I think that TP is more athlete than quarterback, so the analogy with Troy Smith makes sense to me. I think the kid is still learning big-time football, and he will do just fine. Meanwhile, they (coaches) ought to give him more plays to make use of his athleticism.</p>
<p>3. JohnBoy, I agree that Barkley seems more polished, but let&#8217;s be realistic. The USC game plan was to put Barkley in positions where he could succeed. I mean shit, dumping off to a RB, handoffs to said RB and QB sneaks aren&#8217;t exactly a dynamic offensive performance.</p>
<p>The more I&#8217;m thinking about it, the more aggravated I am with the offensive coaching. The philosophy of playing it &#8216;close to the sweater-vest&#8217; doesn&#8217;t cut it when playing top notch competition. We need an offensive coordinator; let JT gave more time to manage the game (we could improve that as well) and generally do what HC&#8217;s are supposed to do. </p>
<p>Getting beat in Big Games like this is really frustrating; if you&#8217;re content to maintain this style of play and continue to be a Conference power, or possibly a Regional power, fine. I think our expectations are a little higher than that.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd (Not Boeckman)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd (Not Boeckman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points (as a fake former QB) ;)

1) Terrell Pryor&#039;s progressions are ok.  That is not his problem.  His presnap reads are horrendous to non-esistant.  However, that is usually one of the last things a QB learns and can only be learned by experience.  That isn&#039;t something that is gained much in practice.  Lots of film work followed up by real life experience.

2)  It is WAAAAAAAY too early to write him off as a QB.  He&#039;s not championship quality yet.  But just like with Troy Smith, the light bulb will go off at some point and he will be devistating.

Also, He throws well on the move to the right, but not so much rolling left.  When he has time and the defense is ID&#039;d by him, his mechanics are actually pretty good.  When he is scrambling for reads in panic mode is when his mechanics break down.  Some of that will only improve with time on the battlefield.  Learning to square his body quickly and then throwing will also come at some point.

Patience Buckeye Fans.  And don&#039;t feed the trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points (as a fake former QB) <img src='http://www.ourhonordefend.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>1) Terrell Pryor&#8217;s progressions are ok.  That is not his problem.  His presnap reads are horrendous to non-esistant.  However, that is usually one of the last things a QB learns and can only be learned by experience.  That isn&#8217;t something that is gained much in practice.  Lots of film work followed up by real life experience.</p>
<p>2)  It is WAAAAAAAY too early to write him off as a QB.  He&#8217;s not championship quality yet.  But just like with Troy Smith, the light bulb will go off at some point and he will be devistating.</p>
<p>Also, He throws well on the move to the right, but not so much rolling left.  When he has time and the defense is ID&#8217;d by him, his mechanics are actually pretty good.  When he is scrambling for reads in panic mode is when his mechanics break down.  Some of that will only improve with time on the battlefield.  Learning to square his body quickly and then throwing will also come at some point.</p>
<p>Patience Buckeye Fans.  And don&#8217;t feed the trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: poop</title>
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		<dc:creator>poop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see where you get that the D-Line dominated their O-Line at any point. They did very good keeping &quot;the stable&quot; in check but I saw very little pressure on Barkley. I remember 2 sacks by lineman and 1 by Torrence. I didn&#039;t hear Thads name more than once.  I think that the Trojans have the best offensive line in college football though. They are a young team like us but it&#039;s still USC (they reload). Tressel calling the plays just isn&#039;t going to get it done against these types of teams. He needs to hire an offensive coordinator or get out. The players deserve some blame too, especially Pryor. I hate saying anything bad about him but I hope this project pays off because he looked like he regressed once again last night. He&#039;s still young but at some point that excuse isn&#039;t going to fly anymore. Props to the defense for holding as long as they did. The offense has to score more points for this team to get over the hump. That was a great game but we need to start winning again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see where you get that the D-Line dominated their O-Line at any point. They did very good keeping &#8220;the stable&#8221; in check but I saw very little pressure on Barkley. I remember 2 sacks by lineman and 1 by Torrence. I didn&#8217;t hear Thads name more than once.  I think that the Trojans have the best offensive line in college football though. They are a young team like us but it&#8217;s still USC (they reload). Tressel calling the plays just isn&#8217;t going to get it done against these types of teams. He needs to hire an offensive coordinator or get out. The players deserve some blame too, especially Pryor. I hate saying anything bad about him but I hope this project pays off because he looked like he regressed once again last night. He&#8217;s still young but at some point that excuse isn&#8217;t going to fly anymore. Props to the defense for holding as long as they did. The offense has to score more points for this team to get over the hump. That was a great game but we need to start winning again.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, the play calling was not perfect last night but we had tremendous opportunities to gouge USC with the pass and Pryor hasn&#039;t been DEVELOPED enough to see these. That is where the most prominent changes need to be made...developing this offensive talent quickly and efficiently to put us in position to execute flawlessly. This was the difference last night....Barkley is more polished and developed. We need some offensive guys who can really teach these kids what it means to operate in an offense that actually places a value on crossing the goal line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, the play calling was not perfect last night but we had tremendous opportunities to gouge USC with the pass and Pryor hasn&#8217;t been DEVELOPED enough to see these. That is where the most prominent changes need to be made&#8230;developing this offensive talent quickly and efficiently to put us in position to execute flawlessly. This was the difference last night&#8230;.Barkley is more polished and developed. We need some offensive guys who can really teach these kids what it means to operate in an offense that actually places a value on crossing the goal line.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Extremely proud of our defense.  I think we have middling talent starting at linebacker right now (that should change next year), but the D-line was so tremendous.  The secondary played out of its mind too, given their experience level and talent. I think the change of bringing Luke Fickell to the sideline is doing wonders and I&#039;m beginning to think he will be the next OSU ball-coach.  D&#039;Antonio will be too old by the time Tress retires, which may be sooner rather than later if this keeps up.

Pryor does not seem to have the vision or mental sharpness to be a QB.  Immensely talented, but he gets tunnel vision on the field.  Some guys have it, and some don&#039;t.  I&#039;m beginning to think Pryor would be better served NFL-wise by switching to WR, because he certainly isn&#039;t showing the gravitas to play QB in top tier college FB, let alone the NFL.

Lastly, I am so proud of our fans.  I was there last night in the stadium.  I&#039;ve never seen an environment like that before in the &#039;Shoe, and all of us still were holding our breathes.  As that last drive developed, we started to realize we were going to lose.  But we still kept screaming.  For a few minutes there in the early 4th quarter, we had our swagger back.  It was just pure joy.  We lost that feeling on the final drive, but dear fucking God do I miss that freewheeling feeling of swagger.  It&#039;s been since Nov. 2006 since we had that feeling.  I want it back, for good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Extremely proud of our defense.  I think we have middling talent starting at linebacker right now (that should change next year), but the D-line was so tremendous.  The secondary played out of its mind too, given their experience level and talent. I think the change of bringing Luke Fickell to the sideline is doing wonders and I&#8217;m beginning to think he will be the next OSU ball-coach.  D&#8217;Antonio will be too old by the time Tress retires, which may be sooner rather than later if this keeps up.</p>
<p>Pryor does not seem to have the vision or mental sharpness to be a QB.  Immensely talented, but he gets tunnel vision on the field.  Some guys have it, and some don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;m beginning to think Pryor would be better served NFL-wise by switching to WR, because he certainly isn&#8217;t showing the gravitas to play QB in top tier college FB, let alone the NFL.</p>
<p>Lastly, I am so proud of our fans.  I was there last night in the stadium.  I&#8217;ve never seen an environment like that before in the &#8216;Shoe, and all of us still were holding our breathes.  As that last drive developed, we started to realize we were going to lose.  But we still kept screaming.  For a few minutes there in the early 4th quarter, we had our swagger back.  It was just pure joy.  We lost that feeling on the final drive, but dear fucking God do I miss that freewheeling feeling of swagger.  It&#8217;s been since Nov. 2006 since we had that feeling.  I want it back, for good.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing; I can&#039;t figure out for the life of me why we decided to get away from using Brandon Saine; were the wheel routes working too well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing; I can&#8217;t figure out for the life of me why we decided to get away from using Brandon Saine; were the wheel routes working too well?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vico,

Good write up, again. Even after my rant last night, I&#039;m still running a little hot today. Good observation about Herron not &#039;Booming&#039; into the holes, and i think that TP was, uh, less than sharp last night.  What amounted to an easy &#039;almost pick-6&#039; was not the way to start the game. I guess I rationalized it in that TP is still a soph, and maybe he is more an &#039;athlete&#039; quarterback than a &#039;quarterback&#039; quarterback. I think that he didn&#039;t compare as well against Barkley is that Petey called a better game for a young QB.

I&#039;m still pissed about Tressel&#039;s approach to play calling. If he, to paraphrase Mussberger is &#039;rock-solid conservative&#039;, I think it may be time to get a &#039;liberal&#039; in there to call the plays. I wholdheartedly support JT as a head coach, and most certainly as a decent person, but just give up the play-calling to someone else, please.

And, again, I have a lot of praise for the overall defense, and only somewhat less so for the offensive line.  Both units acquitted themselves well, I thought. 

Finally, God bless Jack Tatum. I didn&#039;t realize that his health had deteriorated some much. Tatum has been and always will be one of my favorite Buckeyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vico,</p>
<p>Good write up, again. Even after my rant last night, I&#8217;m still running a little hot today. Good observation about Herron not &#8216;Booming&#8217; into the holes, and i think that TP was, uh, less than sharp last night.  What amounted to an easy &#8216;almost pick-6&#8242; was not the way to start the game. I guess I rationalized it in that TP is still a soph, and maybe he is more an &#8216;athlete&#8217; quarterback than a &#8216;quarterback&#8217; quarterback. I think that he didn&#8217;t compare as well against Barkley is that Petey called a better game for a young QB.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still pissed about Tressel&#8217;s approach to play calling. If he, to paraphrase Mussberger is &#8216;rock-solid conservative&#8217;, I think it may be time to get a &#8216;liberal&#8217; in there to call the plays. I wholdheartedly support JT as a head coach, and most certainly as a decent person, but just give up the play-calling to someone else, please.</p>
<p>And, again, I have a lot of praise for the overall defense, and only somewhat less so for the offensive line.  Both units acquitted themselves well, I thought. </p>
<p>Finally, God bless Jack Tatum. I didn&#8217;t realize that his health had deteriorated some much. Tatum has been and always will be one of my favorite Buckeyes.</p>
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		<title>By: BED</title>
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		<dc:creator>BED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vico, there was holding called on USC because those were Big10 refs.  I think they eliminated that particular penalty in the Pac10 circa 2003.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vico, there was holding called on USC because those were Big10 refs.  I think they eliminated that particular penalty in the Pac10 circa 2003.</p>
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