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	<title>Comments on: Carlos Hyde Won&#8217;t Enroll Until Winter (At the Least)</title>
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	<description>we will fight to the end for O-HI-O, but we can't promise to be any good at it</description>
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		<title>By: El Caballo de Sangre</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2009/07/carlos-hyde-wont-enroll-until-winter-at-the-least.php/comment-page-1#comment-2270</link>
		<dc:creator>El Caballo de Sangre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should amend that - it&#039;s not entirely accurate; I just get pissed off when people start running off at the mouth about kids&#039; smarts, or generalizing ONE student&#039;s failures to an entire nation of 300 million people: it wasn&#039;t just the ACT, it was all of my test scores together that got me some $ @ MU. The Ohio Academic Scholarship I got was the springboard to the rest of the money.

BUT: One of the things we&#039;re all supposed to love about this system of glorified indentured servitude is that it gives kids of marginal academic ability (or having been doomed to a shitty school) and no means a chance to get a leg up in the world through college - the point here is not that I&#039;m smarter (if that&#039;s indeed true; I don&#039;t know) than DaveN or that DaveN is smarter than Carlos Hyde, it&#039;s that it&#039;s EXTREMELY poor form to say shit like that. If Tress &amp; Co. think this kid&#039;s worthy, that&#039;s good enough for me, and I&#039;ll be pulling for him to succeed until I know - repeat KNOW - what his deal is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should amend that &#8211; it&#8217;s not entirely accurate; I just get pissed off when people start running off at the mouth about kids&#8217; smarts, or generalizing ONE student&#8217;s failures to an entire nation of 300 million people: it wasn&#8217;t just the ACT, it was all of my test scores together that got me some $ @ MU. The Ohio Academic Scholarship I got was the springboard to the rest of the money.</p>
<p>BUT: One of the things we&#8217;re all supposed to love about this system of glorified indentured servitude is that it gives kids of marginal academic ability (or having been doomed to a shitty school) and no means a chance to get a leg up in the world through college &#8211; the point here is not that I&#8217;m smarter (if that&#8217;s indeed true; I don&#8217;t know) than DaveN or that DaveN is smarter than Carlos Hyde, it&#8217;s that it&#8217;s EXTREMELY poor form to say shit like that. If Tress &amp; Co. think this kid&#8217;s worthy, that&#8217;s good enough for me, and I&#8217;ll be pulling for him to succeed until I know &#8211; repeat KNOW &#8211; what his deal is.</p>
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		<title>By: El Caballo de Sangre</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2009/07/carlos-hyde-wont-enroll-until-winter-at-the-least.php/comment-page-1#comment-2269</link>
		<dc:creator>El Caballo de Sangre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick-and-dirty search on Teh Google (terms: fork union ohio state football) says that a DB named LeAndre Boone, of the 2001 recruiting class, is the last &quot;Buckeye&quot; to have attended Fork Union. A Bucknuts thread says he never saw the field and transferred prior to the &#039;03 season (again, this is via a cursory Google for &quot;LeAndre Boone&quot;).

If that dude doesn&#039;t count, I think it&#039;s Eddie. Maybe Tress &amp; Co. can get him to reach out to Carlos.

I got a sweet academic scholly to Miami U. because I got a 33 - and better than a 24 the 1st time I took it in SEVENTH grade, DaveN - you gonna slag on my public school education? Maybe you and I just had better parents and peer groups and teachers, etc. than young Mr. Hyde. Unless you know him personally you should STFU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick-and-dirty search on Teh Google (terms: fork union ohio state football) says that a DB named LeAndre Boone, of the 2001 recruiting class, is the last &#8220;Buckeye&#8221; to have attended Fork Union. A Bucknuts thread says he never saw the field and transferred prior to the &#8217;03 season (again, this is via a cursory Google for &#8220;LeAndre Boone&#8221;).</p>
<p>If that dude doesn&#8217;t count, I think it&#8217;s Eddie. Maybe Tress &amp; Co. can get him to reach out to Carlos.</p>
<p>I got a sweet academic scholly to Miami U. because I got a 33 &#8211; and better than a 24 the 1st time I took it in SEVENTH grade, DaveN &#8211; you gonna slag on my public school education? Maybe you and I just had better parents and peer groups and teachers, etc. than young Mr. Hyde. Unless you know him personally you should STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, he did get a 6 on his ACT.  I believe that was the glory days of the Big 8, when -- echoing former University of Oklahoma president George Lynn Cross&#039; immortal words -- university officials were trying to build universities that their respective football teams could be proud of.

That reminds me: when was the last time the Buckeyes had someone who spent a year at Hargrave or Fork Union?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, he did get a 6 on his ACT.  I believe that was the glory days of the Big 8, when &#8212; echoing former University of Oklahoma president George Lynn Cross&#8217; immortal words &#8212; university officials were trying to build universities that their respective football teams could be proud of.</p>
<p>That reminds me: when was the last time the Buckeyes had someone who spent a year at Hargrave or Fork Union?</p>
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		<title>By: El Caballo de Sangre</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Caballo de Sangre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve really gotta feel for the kid. When I lived in Reston, VA, Dexter Manley was my next-door neighbor, and I happened to be arriving home the same time as him the very day he&#039;d revealed to a Senate hearing that he couldn&#039;t read. He&#039;d always seemed amazingly charming and full of life (given his other travails, I suppose you can take the &quot;full of life&quot; part any way you want to) to me, but that day he was just so obviously broken-down and exhausted. IIRC, Dexter got a SIX on his ACT and was still admitted to Oklahoma State.

Not to analogize this too closely to Carlos Hyde, but the humiliation and disappointment he has to be feeling right now (exacerbated by the public nature of this setback) must be terrible. Hopefully he gets himself squared away at someplace like Fork Union - the extra time there sure didn&#039;t have any negative consequences for Eddie&#039;s career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve really gotta feel for the kid. When I lived in Reston, VA, Dexter Manley was my next-door neighbor, and I happened to be arriving home the same time as him the very day he&#8217;d revealed to a Senate hearing that he couldn&#8217;t read. He&#8217;d always seemed amazingly charming and full of life (given his other travails, I suppose you can take the &#8220;full of life&#8221; part any way you want to) to me, but that day he was just so obviously broken-down and exhausted. IIRC, Dexter got a SIX on his ACT and was still admitted to Oklahoma State.</p>
<p>Not to analogize this too closely to Carlos Hyde, but the humiliation and disappointment he has to be feeling right now (exacerbated by the public nature of this setback) must be terrible. Hopefully he gets himself squared away at someplace like Fork Union &#8211; the extra time there sure didn&#8217;t have any negative consequences for Eddie&#8217;s career.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really thought Hyde was going to be an early star with the Buckeyes. If he follows the route of other academic casualties, he won&#039;t make it into OSU at any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really thought Hyde was going to be an early star with the Buckeyes. If he follows the route of other academic casualties, he won&#8217;t make it into OSU at any time.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Terry Glenn having academic issues in 1994, and I&#039;m not sure to what extent academics played a factor in his recruitment.  He was a walk-on (IIRC), and I want to say it&#039;s because he was a late academic qualifier.  Someone with more know-how may be more helpful here than I.

Even then, Ohio State&#039;s staff goes out of its way to not court people they know are not going to qualify, so Hyde&#039;s case is a rather unpleasant surprise and he finds himself in a small sample of Tressel football players (presuming he eventually makes the grade).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Terry Glenn having academic issues in 1994, and I&#8217;m not sure to what extent academics played a factor in his recruitment.  He was a walk-on (IIRC), and I want to say it&#8217;s because he was a late academic qualifier.  Someone with more know-how may be more helpful here than I.</p>
<p>Even then, Ohio State&#8217;s staff goes out of its way to not court people they know are not going to qualify, so Hyde&#8217;s case is a rather unpleasant surprise and he finds himself in a small sample of Tressel football players (presuming he eventually makes the grade).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vico, has a situation like this ever worked out for the Buckeyes, to your recollection? I can&#039;t remember a player failing to qualify at first and then later qualifying and blazing a prominent Buckeye football career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vico, has a situation like this ever worked out for the Buckeyes, to your recollection? I can&#8217;t remember a player failing to qualify at first and then later qualifying and blazing a prominent Buckeye football career.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A freaking 16? I scored a 24 on the ACT in 8th grade... Ah, American public education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A freaking 16? I scored a 24 on the ACT in 8th grade&#8230; Ah, American public education.</p>
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