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	<title>Comments on: Better Know A Buckeye: Shawntel Rowell</title>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I probably would have been surprised that someone would get that trashed when they knew they had to pick up their kids.  But then again thats probably how she got her kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I probably would have been surprised that someone would get that trashed when they knew they had to pick up their kids.  But then again thats probably how she got her kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lesson definitely learned on that regard: keep my fool mouth shut.  But again, in my defense, it was a totally involuntary kneejerk reaction to ask if I heard that right and that she had kids.  She looked no older than me and she was clearly intoxicated... and was going back to pick up her kids.  Yikes.

And, of course, she doesn&#039;t have my number nor does she know anything that I do other than knowing my first name.  So I feel safe in that regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lesson definitely learned on that regard: keep my fool mouth shut.  But again, in my defense, it was a totally involuntary kneejerk reaction to ask if I heard that right and that she had kids.  She looked no older than me and she was clearly intoxicated&#8230; and was going back to pick up her kids.  Yikes.</p>
<p>And, of course, she doesn&#8217;t have my number nor does she know anything that I do other than knowing my first name.  So I feel safe in that regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love that Souther hospitality.

Vico, a bit of advice......next time, don&#039;t say anything and let her leave.  As long as you didn&#039;t give her your number then it would have been your choice to call her or not (not to call being the better choice in this situation).

Uhhhmmm..... Shawntel Rowell.....and shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love that Souther hospitality.</p>
<p>Vico, a bit of advice&#8230;&#8230;next time, don&#8217;t say anything and let her leave.  As long as you didn&#8217;t give her your number then it would have been your choice to call her or not (not to call being the better choice in this situation).</p>
<p>Uhhhmmm&#8230;.. Shawntel Rowell&#8230;..and shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Isaacs</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Isaacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, as  father myself, our job is to scream at them when they are doing something stupid, and slap them upside the head when they aren&#039;t listening to you.  I&#039;m from the Ahnold school of child rearing:  &quot;Stop Crying!&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, as  father myself, our job is to scream at them when they are doing something stupid, and slap them upside the head when they aren&#8217;t listening to you.  I&#8217;m from the Ahnold school of child rearing:  &#8220;Stop Crying!&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic.  And shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic.  And shit.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh...

In my defense, I said that because I just kind of think the sole purpose of dating is to establish something long term and that I should be upfront and say that I&#039;m just not ready for that kind of thing.  I wasn&#039;t trying to be judgmental, I wasn&#039;t looking down on her for being a mother (I was kind of shocked that she would be going home that drunk to her children, hence the surprised tone when I asked) at her age, I was just trying to say that I wouldn&#039;t want to waste her time if I knew I wasn&#039;t ready to play a role in her children&#039;s lives.  Am I wrong?

Also in my defense, isn&#039;t being a positive role model who gives advice (and shit) called... oh I don&#039;t know, being a father (and shit)?

Bah, that sucked.  And a lot of help you were Gabby.  Btw, she did reek of jager, so I&#039;m guessing there were more jagerbombs before what you or I saw.

The 22yr old-5yr old kid thing still creeps me out.

Anywho, yay Shawntel Rowell.  Let&#039;s talk about him and not the endless series of culture shocks that is my Alabama experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230;</p>
<p>In my defense, I said that because I just kind of think the sole purpose of dating is to establish something long term and that I should be upfront and say that I&#8217;m just not ready for that kind of thing.  I wasn&#8217;t trying to be judgmental, I wasn&#8217;t looking down on her for being a mother (I was kind of shocked that she would be going home that drunk to her children, hence the surprised tone when I asked) at her age, I was just trying to say that I wouldn&#8217;t want to waste her time if I knew I wasn&#8217;t ready to play a role in her children&#8217;s lives.  Am I wrong?</p>
<p>Also in my defense, isn&#8217;t being a positive role model who gives advice (and shit) called&#8230; oh I don&#8217;t know, being a father (and shit)?</p>
<p>Bah, that sucked.  And a lot of help you were Gabby.  Btw, she did reek of jager, so I&#8217;m guessing there were more jagerbombs before what you or I saw.</p>
<p>The 22yr old-5yr old kid thing still creeps me out.</p>
<p>Anywho, yay Shawntel Rowell.  Let&#8217;s talk about him and not the endless series of culture shocks that is my Alabama experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabby Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabby Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;ll have to say it, because I know Vic won&#039;t talk about it because he&#039;ll be weirded out about it for a while.  So I finally force him last night to do something social, we find a bar we haven&#039;t been in yet around Greenbow (which we lovingly call where we live) and have some drinks and some greasy food to go with it.  We&#039;re chatting, having a great time, I go to the restroom and when I come back, I notice there&#039;s some little lady chatting him up.

Turns out they were agreeing on most everything and, for once, he didn&#039;t resort to talking about the Buckeyes or his job to try to stimulate conversation.  I was proud of him.  They were chatting on some miscellaneous things like art and movies or some random stuff.  I didn&#039;t pick up on all of it because I was doing my best to eavesdrop without making it too obvious that I was listening in.  It took me awhile to figure out that she was hammered (as Vic would tell me later that she indeed reeked of booze), and having a hard time standing in her heels in her inebriated condition.

About an hour later and a couple jager bombs for her later (I think I counted 6), her friend grabs her and says they should probably head out.  The lady in question gives Vic her digits and Vic says he&#039;ll call and that they can go out on a date some time later.  The lady&#039;s friend then says to her &quot;okay, are you ready to go pick up your kids now?&quot;

Vic uncontrollably and kinda incredulously blurted out &quot;wait, you have kids?&quot;.  

And then everything goes to hell.

She whipped around and asked if there was a problem with that, and Vic kind of innocently and politely said that he doesn&#039;t feel like he&#039;s ready to be a father figure to any kids at the moment given that he&#039;s only 23, just started getting into the college loans deal, feels that he has some final maturation that he needs to do for himself and doesn&#039;t make a great deal of money in order to commit himself 100 percent to being a father.

After that, this woman unloads on him in the angriest, hatingest, slurred tirade I&#039;ve heard yet.  She calls him a godless heathen for not going to church, and says she&#039;s not asking any guy she dates to be a father to her kids, but just be a &quot;positive role model who gives advice and shit&quot; (I remember that line clearly) and not be some godless heathen &quot;with a potty mouth and no sense of religion or values&quot;, even though all obscenities I heard in conversation were from her since Vic is a rather quiet guy.  She scolds him for thinking it ridiculous that he&#039;s not ready to be a father at 23 when she&#039;s a 22 year old divorced mother of a 5 year old and 3 year old (the 5 year old thing had Vic&#039;s jaw hit the floor... mine too.) and doing it just fine on her Piggly Wiggly money.  She lunges at Vico&#039;s hand and rips away the piece of paper she wrote her phone number on, tears it up and throws it on the ground ultimately saying how judgmental he is and how he will pay for it in the afterlife.  She finished it with &quot;God Bless&quot; and her and her friend stormed out of the bar.

Of course, by that time, everyone was looking at him like he had made some kind of suggestive gesture at her, whereas only I and the bartender heard what happened.  The look on Vic&#039;s face was priceless.  The best way I could describe it is that look a cat gets on its face when it smells something really funky.  He was weirded out and stone quiet the rest of the night.

I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going back to that bar, though.  And I know Vico will probably try to delete this comment, but I&#039;ll just keep putting it back.  It&#039;s too damn funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;ll have to say it, because I know Vic won&#8217;t talk about it because he&#8217;ll be weirded out about it for a while.  So I finally force him last night to do something social, we find a bar we haven&#8217;t been in yet around Greenbow (which we lovingly call where we live) and have some drinks and some greasy food to go with it.  We&#8217;re chatting, having a great time, I go to the restroom and when I come back, I notice there&#8217;s some little lady chatting him up.</p>
<p>Turns out they were agreeing on most everything and, for once, he didn&#8217;t resort to talking about the Buckeyes or his job to try to stimulate conversation.  I was proud of him.  They were chatting on some miscellaneous things like art and movies or some random stuff.  I didn&#8217;t pick up on all of it because I was doing my best to eavesdrop without making it too obvious that I was listening in.  It took me awhile to figure out that she was hammered (as Vic would tell me later that she indeed reeked of booze), and having a hard time standing in her heels in her inebriated condition.</p>
<p>About an hour later and a couple jager bombs for her later (I think I counted 6), her friend grabs her and says they should probably head out.  The lady in question gives Vic her digits and Vic says he&#8217;ll call and that they can go out on a date some time later.  The lady&#8217;s friend then says to her &#8220;okay, are you ready to go pick up your kids now?&#8221;</p>
<p>Vic uncontrollably and kinda incredulously blurted out &#8220;wait, you have kids?&#8221;.  </p>
<p>And then everything goes to hell.</p>
<p>She whipped around and asked if there was a problem with that, and Vic kind of innocently and politely said that he doesn&#8217;t feel like he&#8217;s ready to be a father figure to any kids at the moment given that he&#8217;s only 23, just started getting into the college loans deal, feels that he has some final maturation that he needs to do for himself and doesn&#8217;t make a great deal of money in order to commit himself 100 percent to being a father.</p>
<p>After that, this woman unloads on him in the angriest, hatingest, slurred tirade I&#8217;ve heard yet.  She calls him a godless heathen for not going to church, and says she&#8217;s not asking any guy she dates to be a father to her kids, but just be a &#8220;positive role model who gives advice and shit&#8221; (I remember that line clearly) and not be some godless heathen &#8220;with a potty mouth and no sense of religion or values&#8221;, even though all obscenities I heard in conversation were from her since Vic is a rather quiet guy.  She scolds him for thinking it ridiculous that he&#8217;s not ready to be a father at 23 when she&#8217;s a 22 year old divorced mother of a 5 year old and 3 year old (the 5 year old thing had Vic&#8217;s jaw hit the floor&#8230; mine too.) and doing it just fine on her Piggly Wiggly money.  She lunges at Vico&#8217;s hand and rips away the piece of paper she wrote her phone number on, tears it up and throws it on the ground ultimately saying how judgmental he is and how he will pay for it in the afterlife.  She finished it with &#8220;God Bless&#8221; and her and her friend stormed out of the bar.</p>
<p>Of course, by that time, everyone was looking at him like he had made some kind of suggestive gesture at her, whereas only I and the bartender heard what happened.  The look on Vic&#8217;s face was priceless.  The best way I could describe it is that look a cat gets on its face when it smells something really funky.  He was weirded out and stone quiet the rest of the night.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going back to that bar, though.  And I know Vico will probably try to delete this comment, but I&#8217;ll just keep putting it back.  It&#8217;s too damn funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would really like to hear the story about the bar the other night.  You could title it &quot;Better Know a Trashed Southern Single Mom.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like to hear the story about the bar the other night.  You could title it &#8220;Better Know a Trashed Southern Single Mom.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/04/better-know-a-buckeye-shawntel-rowell.php/comment-page-1#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vico, we&#039;re sending you a hooker for your next birthday.  But until then, please continue with tales of Southern single moms chewing you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vico, we&#8217;re sending you a hooker for your next birthday.  But until then, please continue with tales of Southern single moms chewing you out.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re not talking about that.  This blog is titled Our Honor Defend, indicating some coverage of the Buckeyes.  This is not titled Trials and Tribulations of Vico&#039;s Southern Living.

Come to think of it, I probably will have to start archiving anecdotes of the Alabama experience because a lot of them defy rationality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re not talking about that.  This blog is titled Our Honor Defend, indicating some coverage of the Buckeyes.  This is not titled Trials and Tribulations of Vico&#8217;s Southern Living.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I probably will have to start archiving anecdotes of the Alabama experience because a lot of them defy rationality.</p>
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