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	<title>Comments on: Willie Mobley: Minnesota she wrote me a letter *</title>
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	<description>we will fight to the end for O-HI-O, but we can't promise to be any good at it</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bummer of a residence Vico.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bummer of a residence Vico.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least THEY have sucked recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least THEY have sucked recently.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alabama, at the very core of SEC territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alabama, at the very core of SEC territory.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where you from in SEC territory? (saw you mention that on another blog)

I have family in Valdosta, Georgia and Jacksonville Florida that I visit frequently.  There is a BIG difference between the two also.  Florida is much more like the North than Georgia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where you from in SEC territory? (saw you mention that on another blog)</p>
<p>I have family in Valdosta, Georgia and Jacksonville Florida that I visit frequently.  There is a BIG difference between the two also.  Florida is much more like the North than Georgia.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>queuing problem is what it was, no harm no foul.

And I still think we suck noodles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>queuing problem is what it was, no harm no foul.</p>
<p>And I still think we suck noodles.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s more like it, you guys are the whip! (Yeah I&#039;m bringing back the 90&#039;s.....so what?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s more like it, you guys are the whip! (Yeah I&#8217;m bringing back the 90&#8242;s&#8230;..so what?)</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rodriguez</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 15:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright I admit it.  I did it....but you&#039;ll never prove it because I shredded the evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright I admit it.  I did it&#8230;.but you&#8217;ll never prove it because I shredded the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 13:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This forgery, coming out of Columbus, at the same time of &quot;rumors&quot; circulating about his decision, smacks of conspiracy to me.

It would probably be easier to chase down the rumors than the letter, though.  Whoever started  circulating the rumors also knows who sent the letter.  Good place to start, at least there are trails to follow.

 I want DNA tests!  Waterboarding!  Whisk these suckers off to Kelleys Island, where they can be &quot;interviewed&quot; unfettered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This forgery, coming out of Columbus, at the same time of &#8220;rumors&#8221; circulating about his decision, smacks of conspiracy to me.</p>
<p>It would probably be easier to chase down the rumors than the letter, though.  Whoever started  circulating the rumors also knows who sent the letter.  Good place to start, at least there are trails to follow.</p>
<p> I want DNA tests!  Waterboarding!  Whisk these suckers off to Kelleys Island, where they can be &#8220;interviewed&#8221; unfettered.</p>
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		<title>By: Vico</title>
		<link>http://www.ourhonordefend.com/2008/02/willie-mobley-minnesota-she-wrote-me-a-letter.php/comment-page-1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Vico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh goodness, I wouldn&#039;t know, Gabby.  None of us our lawyers here (and that&#039;s by design), so what &quot;the law&quot;, as cute as it is to say at that way, is I wouldn&#039;t know.  Substantively I can see an intent to defraud; materially I&#039;m not sure I do.  I can see where there was intent to defraud Mobley out of a decision he clearly had given emotional value to (calling OSU a family, et al).  Where there was an attempt to defraud Mobley out of something tangible (basically: money) I don&#039;t see.  He goes to OSU he gets a full ride; he gets duped into going to Minnesota he still gets a full ride.  This also leads to the other issue of if defrauding has to be zero-sum.  The author of that letter clearly had something to gain out of it, but as mentioned just earlier, it&#039;s not clear where Mobley is a victim since his proposed losses weren&#039;t tangible (if that&#039;s what matters).

That said, I see from your comment where OSU&#039;s coaching staff and athletic department have every right to be furious about this.  They probably have a bigger claim to forgery here, since their losses could be quantified (marketing gains from publicizing the arrival of Minnesota&#039;s second-best overall prepster and so on).  Moreover, forging Tressel&#039;s signature and running around with an unauthorized copy of official letterhead? That can&#039;t be right.

As it stands, I&#039;m more interested in finding out who was responsible for that letter so we can hang that person dead and pike the person&#039;s head on top of the Olentangy River bridge on Lane Avenue as an omen for those who dare piss of Jim Tressel.

But that&#039;s just because I have a bloodlust, and it is unquenchable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh goodness, I wouldn&#8217;t know, Gabby.  None of us our lawyers here (and that&#8217;s by design), so what &#8220;the law&#8221;, as cute as it is to say at that way, is I wouldn&#8217;t know.  Substantively I can see an intent to defraud; materially I&#8217;m not sure I do.  I can see where there was intent to defraud Mobley out of a decision he clearly had given emotional value to (calling OSU a family, et al).  Where there was an attempt to defraud Mobley out of something tangible (basically: money) I don&#8217;t see.  He goes to OSU he gets a full ride; he gets duped into going to Minnesota he still gets a full ride.  This also leads to the other issue of if defrauding has to be zero-sum.  The author of that letter clearly had something to gain out of it, but as mentioned just earlier, it&#8217;s not clear where Mobley is a victim since his proposed losses weren&#8217;t tangible (if that&#8217;s what matters).</p>
<p>That said, I see from your comment where OSU&#8217;s coaching staff and athletic department have every right to be furious about this.  They probably have a bigger claim to forgery here, since their losses could be quantified (marketing gains from publicizing the arrival of Minnesota&#8217;s second-best overall prepster and so on).  Moreover, forging Tressel&#8217;s signature and running around with an unauthorized copy of official letterhead? That can&#8217;t be right.</p>
<p>As it stands, I&#8217;m more interested in finding out who was responsible for that letter so we can hang that person dead and pike the person&#8217;s head on top of the Olentangy River bridge on Lane Avenue as an omen for those who dare piss of Jim Tressel.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just because I have a bloodlust, and it is unquenchable.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabby Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabby Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, Vic.  Surely we don&#039;t know if Minnesota&#039;s coaching staff was responsible or someone else like an interested HS coach or player with a copy of OSU&#039;s letterhead from a letter of interest.  But surely forging Tressel&#039;s signature IS illegal. It would have to be, I would think.  And I&#039;m guessing misrepresenting the author of that phony letter as an official agent of The Ohio State University is illegal as well.

Again, whether or not Minnesota&#039;s coaching staff was part of this is beyond the issue at the moment, though I think it&#039;s definitely worth looking into to at least clear their name if they&#039;re not responsible.  The forgery here, though, IS the issue, and what that author did surely is a crime, is it not?  The letter was created under ostensibly false pretenses with a clear intent to defraud (which is the key here), was it not? That&#039;s the textbook definition of forgery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, Vic.  Surely we don&#8217;t know if Minnesota&#8217;s coaching staff was responsible or someone else like an interested HS coach or player with a copy of OSU&#8217;s letterhead from a letter of interest.  But surely forging Tressel&#8217;s signature IS illegal. It would have to be, I would think.  And I&#8217;m guessing misrepresenting the author of that phony letter as an official agent of The Ohio State University is illegal as well.</p>
<p>Again, whether or not Minnesota&#8217;s coaching staff was part of this is beyond the issue at the moment, though I think it&#8217;s definitely worth looking into to at least clear their name if they&#8217;re not responsible.  The forgery here, though, IS the issue, and what that author did surely is a crime, is it not?  The letter was created under ostensibly false pretenses with a clear intent to defraud (which is the key here), was it not? That&#8217;s the textbook definition of forgery.</p>
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